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La columna Ampersand de la revista Dragon está formada por artículos que adelantan o presentan nuevas cosas para D&D. En este caso una serie de columnas abiertas a todos sobre D&D Essentials.
| Cita: | | Bill Slavicsek presents his ongoing letter to the players, straight from his director's chair in RPG R&D. Find out the latest announcements regarding the making of the next edition. |
09/07/2010
En este artículo de la Dragon 389 se presentan las clases de la nueva línea Essentials y en particular el Clérigo.
| Cita: | Ampersand Special: The Essential Classes - Cleric Preview
Hi. Welcome to a special free-to-all edition of my regular column. Every week throughout July and August, I’ll be here to tell you about the many exciting things going on around the Dungeons & Dragons brand, including all kinds of details about the upcoming line of Essentials products. What are the Essentials products, you ask? Great question. Let me tell you all about it …
http://www.wizards.com/dnd/article.aspx?x=dnd/dramp/20100709 |
16/07/2010
En este artículo de la Dragon 389 se presentan las clases de la nueva línea Essentials y en particular el Wizard.
| Cita: | Ampersand Special: The Essential Classes - Wizard Preview
Welcome to another special, free-to-all edition of my regular column. I’ll be here each week throughout July and August to bring you up to speed on the new Essentials products and to tell you about other exciting things relating to the Dungeons & Dragons brand. Before we dive into it, I wanted to address some misconceptions we’ve been noticing on the boards since I started releasing information.
http://www.wizards.com/dnd/article.aspx?x=dnd/dramp/20100716 |
23/07/2010
En este artículo de la Dragon 389 se presentan las clases de la nueva línea Essentials y en particular el Fighter.
| Cita: | Ampersand Special: The Essential Classes - Fighter Preview
Hi. Welcome to another one of our special, free-to-all editions of my regular column. I’m talking about our DUNGEONS & DRAGONS Essentials products throughout this month and next. In case you haven’t checked out any of the previous columns, allow me to recap:
• The Essentials consist of 10 key products that will form the baseline experience for the roleplaying game moving forward.
• Why are they Essentials? They contain the foundational rules of the game, the baseline character classes, races, and monsters, and the key components that you need to play. No matter what else your retailer has on the shelves, you will always be able to find the Essentials products.
• The Essentials products are designed to provide a better introductory experience to the game for new players while also containing new and exciting options for veteran players.
• The Essentials products are fully compatible with all other DUNGEONS & DRAGONS roleplaying game products, from Player’s Handbook to new products releasing in 2011 and beyond.
That’s a quick recap. Now, let’s look at one of the new fighter builds—the knight. Note that I’m only showing a little bit of the 1st-level knight. Check out Heroes of the Fallen Lands for the complete class build when it debuts in September.
http://www.wizards.com/dnd/article.aspx?x=dnd/dramp/20100723 |
30/07/2010
En este artículo de la Dragon 389 se presentan las clases de la nueva línea Essentials y en particular el Rogue.
| Cita: | Ampersand Special: The Essential Classes - Rogue Preview
Imagine that the Dungeons & Dragons game is a highway. Prior to the Essentials products, you entered the highway at 10th Avenue. With the Essentials products, we’ve constructed a new entry point, and you can now zip onto the roleplaying game highway at 1st Avenue. This provides a better experience for players new to the game, as well as giving existing players new class builds and options to play with.
And the Rules Compendium, which I’ll talk about in more detail in a future column, collects all of the rules of the game into an easier to use, more portable package. It’s a digest-sized paperback that’s lighter and contains all of the rules updates that have been implemented since 2008.
Got all that? Now, let’s take a look at the new rogue build—the thief. Note that I’m only showing a little bit of the 1st-level thief. For the complete class build, check out Heroes of the Fallen Lands when it debuts in September.
http://www.wizards.com/dnd/article.aspx?x=dnd/dramp/20100730 |
06/08/2010
En este artículo de la Dragon 390 se presentan las clases de la nueva línea Essentials y en particular el Fighter en su segundo artículo.
| Cita: | Ampersand Special: The Essential Classes - Fighter Preview, Part 2
Hi. This is another of our special free-to-all editions of my regular column. I’m talking about our Dungeons & Dragons Essentials products throughout this month and next. As you read this, I’m at Gen Con with a bunch of my R&D staff. If you happen to be in the area, drop by and say hi. And watch our website for continuing coverage of our events and seminars direct from the show.
This time out, let’s take a look at the second new fighter build—the slayer. Note that I’m only showing a little bit of the 1st-level slayer. Check out Heroes of the Fallen Lands for the complete class build when it debuts in September.
http://www.wizards.com/dnd/article.aspx?x=dnd/dramp/20100806 |
13/08/2010
En este artículo de la Dragon 390 se presenta uno de los libros de la nueva línea Essentials, el Rules Compendium.
| Cita: | Ampersand Special - Essentials Previews - Rules Compendium
Hi. This is another of our special free-to-all editions of my regular column. I’m talking about our Dungeons & Dragons Essentials products throughout this month and next. We just returned from the fun and excitement of Gen Con, and now it’s back to our normal routine.
For those of you who weren’t able to make it to the convention, check out our coverage of it. We’ve got pictures, seminar logs, and podcasts of many of the key Wizards events that took place over the course of the long weekend. We had a lot of fun talking to fans, playing games, and revealing secrets about upcoming products. Next up for us—PAX, here in Seattle in a few short weeks.
Now let’s get back to my continuing revelations about the new Essentials products. This week, I want to talk about the Rules Compendium. This digest-sized paperback provides 320 pages of game rules and debuts in September. The book not only explains the basics of the Dungeons & Dragons roleplaying game but also contains detailed rules and commentary for seasoned gamers. Other products might be designed specifically for either players or Dungeon Masters, but the Rules Compendium is for everyone at the game table.
http://www.wizards.com/dnd/article.aspx?x=dnd/dramp/20100813 |
20/08/2010
En este artículo de la Dragon 390 se presenta uno de los libros de la nueva línea Essentials, el Dungeon Master's Kit y en particular uno de sus temas.
| Cita: | Ampersand Special - Essentials Previews - Dungeon Master's Kit
Welcome to the eighth of our special, free-to-all editions of "&." I've been showing off portions of our Dungeons & Dragons Essentials products since the beginning of July, and the anticipation just keeps building!
This time out, I want to pull the cover away from an especially important piece of text that we're very proud of. This is the section of the DM Kit that explains the fundamental rule of the game—making checks. It describes what a check is and when to call for one; the difference between ability checks, skill checks, and attack rolls; what each ability and skill is for, and how to decide when to use one instead of another.
We think we've presented the clearest, easiest-to-understand explanation of the game's most important rule in any edition. A DM who understands checks is well on the way to grasping just about every rule there is in the Dungeons & Dragons game.
http://www.wizards.com/dnd/article.aspx?x=dnd/dramp/20100820 |
27/08/2010
En este artículo de la Dragon 390 se presenta uno de los libros de la nueva línea Essentials, el Monster Vault y en particular uno de sus monstruos.
| Cita: | Ampersand Special - Essentials Previews - A Vault Full of Monsters
This is our final installment of Dungeons & Dragons Essentials previews in Ampersand. Before long, you'll be able to pick up your own copy of these terrific books and see first-hand what all the excitement is about.
The last piece of the collection that we need to show off is the Monster Vault. This is a hefty 320 pages (in digest size, like the other books) of the game's most iconic and useful monsters, from Angel and Archon to Yuan-ti and Zombie with loads more in between. Many of these have been seen before in previous Monster Manuals, but everything in the Vault has been reexamined, its statistics rebalanced, and its powers polished up to make these creatures state of the art and in line with the most current Dungeons & Dragons design philosophy. We're not talking about anything earth-shattering; rather, numbers have been tweaked here and there to make creatures more challenging, or powers have been given more interesting and dynamic effects.
But that's not all you get in this box. There are also ten sheets of monster tokens. They're numbered to make it easy to keep track of which hit points go with which token and double-sided to show when they become bloodied. Ten sheets give you hundreds of tokens so that you'll always have what you need or something very close to it.
There's one very cool piece of cardboard tech here that, even though it's a small thing, we're particularly fond of. It's what some are calling "the enorminator"—a cardboard ring that drops around a Large-size token to turn a Large creature into its Enormous cousin. A few of those simple rings allowed us to squeeze a lot more tokens showing a lot more variety of monsters into the ten sheets, and gives you complete freedom when it comes to deciding which monsters to pump up into Huge brutes and solos.
Finally, there's also Cairn of the Winter King—a 32-page adventure for 4th-level characters—and a double-sided poster map for use with the adventure (and the tokens) and any other encounters and adventures you create on your own.
No amount of talking will substitute for a good example–and what better example could there be than that perennial favorite, the beholder gauth? Below is the introduction to the beholders section of the book, the statistics block for the beholder gauth, and as an added bonus, the stats for the enormous carrion crawler—just because we like carrion crawlers (and we had to show off "the enorminator")!
http://www.wizards.com/dnd/article.aspx?x=dnd/dramp/20100827 |
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En este artículo de la Dragon 389 se presentan las clases de la nueva línea Essential y en particular el Wizard.
| Cita: | Ampersand Special: The Essential Classes - Wizard Preview
Welcome to another special, free-to-all edition of my regular column. I’ll be here each week throughout July and August to bring you up to speed on the new Essentials products and to tell you about other exciting things relating to the Dungeons & Dragons brand. Before we dive into it, I wanted to address some misconceptions we’ve been noticing on the boards since I started releasing information.
http://www.wizards.com/dnd/article.aspx?x=dnd/dramp/20100716 |
Sergio
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En resumen, todos los wizards tienen magic missile, más 2 at-will más. Vuelven las escuelas de magia, con algunas habilidades relacionadas que se ganan a lo largo del avance de la clase. Y se preparan no sólo los dailys y utilities, sino también los encounters.
Y arriesgo una hipótesis: quieren que essentials sea a 4ª lo que Pathfinder a 3.5.
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| El Enano Durlock escribió: | | En un mundo fantastico donde te mata el pedo de un jabli magico, podes cambiar muy seguido de PJ. |
| Faust escribió: | | La lógica se aplica a todo lo que no tenga reglas escritas, y las reglas escritas están para mantener el balance (y por lo tanto, el valor gamista) del sistema. Es por esto que algunos amamos 4ta y otros lo odian con toda su alma. |
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En este artículo de la Dragon 389 se presentan las clases de la nueva línea Essential y en particular el Fighter.
| Cita: | Ampersand Special: The Essential Classes - Fighter Preview
Hi. Welcome to another one of our special, free-to-all editions of my regular column. I’m talking about our DUNGEONS & DRAGONS Essentials products throughout this month and next. In case you haven’t checked out any of the previous columns, allow me to recap:
• The Essentials consist of 10 key products that will form the baseline experience for the roleplaying game moving forward.
• Why are they Essentials? They contain the foundational rules of the game, the baseline character classes, races, and monsters, and the key components that you need to play. No matter what else your retailer has on the shelves, you will always be able to find the Essentials products.
• The Essentials products are designed to provide a better introductory experience to the game for new players while also containing new and exciting options for veteran players.
• The Essentials products are fully compatible with all other DUNGEONS & DRAGONS roleplaying game products, from Player’s Handbook to new products releasing in 2011 and beyond.
That’s a quick recap. Now, let’s look at one of the new fighter builds—the knight. Note that I’m only showing a little bit of the 1st-level knight. Check out Heroes of the Fallen Lands for the complete class build when it debuts in September.
http://www.wizards.com/dnd/article.aspx?x=dnd/dramp/20100723 |
Sergio
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En este artículo de la Dragon 389 se presentan las clases de la nueva línea Essential y en particular el Rogue.
| Cita: | Ampersand Special: The Essential Classes - Rogue Preview
Imagine that the Dungeons & Dragons game is a highway. Prior to the Essentials products, you entered the highway at 10th Avenue. With the Essentials products, we’ve constructed a new entry point, and you can now zip onto the roleplaying game highway at 1st Avenue. This provides a better experience for players new to the game, as well as giving existing players new class builds and options to play with.
And the Rules Compendium, which I’ll talk about in more detail in a future column, collects all of the rules of the game into an easier to use, more portable package. It’s a digest-sized paperback that’s lighter and contains all of the rules updates that have been implemented since 2008.
Got all that? Now, let’s take a look at the new rogue build—the thief. Note that I’m only showing a little bit of the 1st-level thief. For the complete class build, check out Heroes of the Fallen Lands when it debuts in September.
http://www.wizards.com/dnd/article.aspx?x=dnd/dramp/20100730 |
Sergio
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En este artículo de la Dragon 390 se presentan las clases de la nueva línea Essential y en particular el Fighter en su segundo artículo.
| Cita: | Ampersand Special: The Essential Classes - Fighter Preview, Part 2
Hi. This is another of our special free-to-all editions of my regular column. I’m talking about our Dungeons & Dragons Essentials products throughout this month and next. As you read this, I’m at Gen Con with a bunch of my R&D staff. If you happen to be in the area, drop by and say hi. And watch our website for continuing coverage of our events and seminars direct from the show.
This time out, let’s take a look at the second new fighter build—the slayer. Note that I’m only showing a little bit of the 1st-level slayer. Check out Heroes of the Fallen Lands for the complete class build when it debuts in September.
http://www.wizards.com/dnd/article.aspx?x=dnd/dramp/20100806 |
Sergio
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3.5 Psionics is not overpowered or broken. Not liking it does not mean broken!
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Ok, para mí con esto se puede concluir que lo que quieren hacer es que el que tenía un fighter que hacía mucho daño en 3a se lo pueda volver a armar. Cuando salga el fighter "archer" se confirma.
Me gustaría saber si van a banear power attack para no desbalancear al fighter ese con su stance de daño, o -si no lo hacen- qué resultados puede tener a nivel juego.
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| El Enano Durlock escribió: | | En un mundo fantastico donde te mata el pedo de un jabli magico, podes cambiar muy seguido de PJ. |
| Faust escribió: | | La lógica se aplica a todo lo que no tenga reglas escritas, y las reglas escritas están para mantener el balance (y por lo tanto, el valor gamista) del sistema. Es por esto que algunos amamos 4ta y otros lo odian con toda su alma. |
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En este artículo de la Dragon 390 se presenta uno de los libros de la nueva línea Essential, el Rules Compendium.
| Cita: | Ampersand Special - Essentials Previews - Rules Compendium
Hi. This is another of our special free-to-all editions of my regular column. I’m talking about our Dungeons & Dragons Essentials products throughout this month and next. We just returned from the fun and excitement of Gen Con, and now it’s back to our normal routine.
For those of you who weren’t able to make it to the convention, check out our coverage of it. We’ve got pictures, seminar logs, and podcasts of many of the key Wizards events that took place over the course of the long weekend. We had a lot of fun talking to fans, playing games, and revealing secrets about upcoming products. Next up for us—PAX, here in Seattle in a few short weeks.
Now let’s get back to my continuing revelations about the new Essentials products. This week, I want to talk about the Rules Compendium. This digest-sized paperback provides 320 pages of game rules and debuts in September. The book not only explains the basics of the Dungeons & Dragons roleplaying game but also contains detailed rules and commentary for seasoned gamers. Other products might be designed specifically for either players or Dungeon Masters, but the Rules Compendium is for everyone at the game table.
http://www.wizards.com/dnd/article.aspx?x=dnd/dramp/20100813 |
Sergio
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Sería un libro interesante, si no fuera porque va a venir con todas las cosas cambiadas para adaptar a essentials.
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| Faust escribió: | | La lógica se aplica a todo lo que no tenga reglas escritas, y las reglas escritas están para mantener el balance (y por lo tanto, el valor gamista) del sistema. Es por esto que algunos amamos 4ta y otros lo odian con toda su alma. |
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¿De qué estás hablando willies?
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| Faust escribió: | | La lógica se aplica a todo lo que no tenga reglas escritas, y las reglas escritas están para mantener el balance (y por lo tanto, el valor gamista) del sistema. Es por esto que algunos amamos 4ta y otros lo odian con toda su alma. |
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| Merovingian escribió: | | ¿De qué estás hablando, Willie? |
Lo dice en el artículo mismo.
| Ampersand escribió: | | Because of the book’s focus on the game’s core, some rules didn’t make the cut. Rules for artifacts, for instance, aren’t included. In contrast, every power keyword that has appeared in our books is defined. The book also includes things that aren’t rules but provide context for understanding the game, which is a combination of game play and storytelling. For example, alignments are defined, since alignment is a core story conceit of the Dungeons & Dragons world. |
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| Wiseman escribió: | | Dios ya me paresco a Halfling Daniel |
Sorprendente.
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| El Enano Durlock escribió: | | Un sapo muerto no es un tipo de arma. Es un sapo, muerto. |
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Lo que no entiendo es qué piensa Wocky que eso implica; por qué para él "con eso muestran la hilacha".
Perdón si es alguna obviedad, pero por algún motivo no lo capto jaja.
(Todos podemos sacar un 1 natural en Inteligencia de vez en cuando).
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| Faust escribió: | | La lógica se aplica a todo lo que no tenga reglas escritas, y las reglas escritas están para mantener el balance (y por lo tanto, el valor gamista) del sistema. Es por esto que algunos amamos 4ta y otros lo odian con toda su alma. |
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| Publicado: Dom Ago 15, 2010 2:28 am Asunto: |
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Al libro este lo venden como la referencia completa de las reglas de 4ta... compatible con Essential y con "lo viejo" porque "son lo mismo".
... Pero venimos viendo que lo peor de Essential, aún para los que queremos ignorarlo, es que está forzando algunos cambios en "lo viejo" para mantener compatibilidad con "lo nuevo". Ahí es donde habría un peligro con este libro...
... y más allá de toda sospecha vemos que ya anunciaron algo malo: dejan de lado las reglas de artefacto, que eran requete-core, con la excusa de que en realidad no lo son. Yo me imagino que en Essential dejaron un poco de lado los artefactos, igual que parece que dejaron de lado los rituales, y por eso prefieren no ponerlas acá. No me sorprendería entonces tampoco que otra omisión importante sean las reglas de rituales.
En conclusión, digo que "muestran la hilacha" porque lo que venden como un compendio de reglas de 4ta que nos sirve a todos está hecho en función de los intereses de Essential, que no es tan compatible, modular y opcional como nos quieren hacer creer.
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En otras palabras, lo que Wocky quiere decir es que nos están intentando hacer "the old switcharoo" diciendo que es una cosa que en definitiva es otra. Yo estoy de acuerdo, y me parece cada vez más claro que Essentials es 4.x (si no directamente 5e) y que 4ta. va a sufrir mucho para ponerlo en línea con Essentials.
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